Each application season nonresident elk and deer hunters in Montana need to grapple with not only a complex application process but also 2 different point systems. Understanding these point systems and the numbers behind them is unfortunately not as simple as one would hope. The primary intent of this article is to provide a more detailed explanation of preference points and how they might impact you in the 2020 General/Combo tag drawing.
Let's quickly review the basic tag requirements for nonresident elk and deer hunters in Montana. (skip overview)
Montana has 2 distinct categories of elk/deer license: General (referred to as "Combo" licenses) and Permits (a special tag that let's you hunt in a specific area).
Holders of a General/Combo tag in Montana may hunt in the majority, but not all, of Montana's different hunt districts/units distributed throughout the state. Specific regulations may vary slightly from unit to unit but overall you are allowed to hunt any of the general units if you are the holder of a General/Combo license.
Permits are good for a single unit or small group of units and have a limited amount of availability. Typically this makes them harder to get in the drawing but often the quality of the hunt experience can be better and the potential to harvest a trophy is improved. It is not a requirement to apply for a Permit - you are free to only apply for a General/Combo tag if you choose to do so.
Each of these 2 license categories have their own drawing. One important thing to understand is that in order to be eligible to draw a Permit, you must first successfully draw a General/Combo license. If you fail to do so your application is ineligible in the Permit drawing.
Additionally, each of these 2 license categories have their own point system. For nonresidents the General/Combo drawing uses a preference point system and the Permit drawing uses a bonus point system. These point systems are optional - it is not required that you participate. If you don't participate you will save money but your chances of drawing a tag will typically not increase as much year to year.
Before we move on to General/Combo tag preference points, a quick word about Permit bonus points In Montana. During the Permit drawing your total number of bonus points are squared. So if you have 5 total bonus points, you get 25 chances in the Permit drawing. The draw odds that we show in our Montana data are based on this and reflect your chances to draw considering every applicant's bonus point total in aggregate.
But as previously stated, a nonresident needs to first successfully draw a General/Combo license in order to be eligible for a Permit. The remainder of this article is about preference points and other important factors concerning the General/Combo license drawing.
Historically the nonresident General/Combo licenses were fairly easy to draw, even with 0 preference points. Unfortunately this is no longer the case. Demand for these tags has steadily increased over the last few years and in 2019 there were a significant number of applicants with preference points who were unsuccessful. Here are the 2019 raw totals courtesy of Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks:
|Tag Type||# of Points||# of Applicants||# of Successes||% Success|
|Big Game Combo||0||5592||3057||54.7%|
|Big Game Combo||1||12440||9577||77%|
|Big Game Combo||2||869||869||100%|
|Big Game Combo||3||3||3||100%|
|Landowner Deer Combo||0||1019||1019||100%|
|Landowner Deer Combo||1||4||4||100%|
Note that the General/Big Game Combo (Deer+Elk) and the General/Elk Combo licenses are listed separately on the report. But one important detail to understand is that these 2 licenses come from the same overall quota. The starting nonresident quota for these 2 license types is 17,000 in total. So it doesn't matter if there are 15,000 Big Game combos and 2,000 Elk Combos issued, or vice versa, the total quota is 17,000 for these 2 tag types. And because of that, the draw odds for these 2 tag types are effectively the same. There is no real draw odds advantage to initially apply for an Elk Combo over a Big Game Combo even though the Big Game Combo has more applicant demand.
The General/Deer combo has a starting quota of 4600, but they ended up issuing 9276 tags. To understand what is going on here you need to consider 2 other factors: the Landowner Sponsored/Deer Combo, which had a starting quota of 2000, and the number of Elk Combo licenses issued. To get to 9276, you add up the initial quota (4600), the number of leftover un-issued Sponsored/Deer Combo tags (977), and the total number of Elk Combo tags issued (3699). Think of the Elk Combo add-ins as the "catch up" mechanism to guarantee that the total number of general deer tags issued achieves the overall objective.
Another aspect of this report that doesn't immediately make sense is the fact that there are a lot of 0 preference point applicants that were successful, and a lot of 1 preference point applicants who were not. In a pure preference point system this wouldn't happen - so what is going on here?
The answer is that 25% of all nonresident General/Combo licenses are reserved for applicants with 0 points. So if you have any number of preference points, you're not eligible to draw that 25% (assuming current demand). This aspect of the draw is unique to Montana and can be a source of confusion to nonresident applicants. This also makes for a rather unique scenario that could happen in 2020: you may have as good or better odds to draw with 0 preference points as you do with 1 preference point.
That realization also helps at least partially explain another quirky aspect of the Montana system: if you don't buy preference points at the time of your application, you can't buy them later in the points only period. The points only period is valid only for those that didn't actually apply.
In Montana preference points can be used in the immediate draw upon purchase. In most other states if you purchase a point at the time of the application those points only benefit you the following draw year (assuming your current year tag application was unsuccessful).
If Montana allowed you to apply for a General tag with no preference points, and then allowed you to purchase a preference point after the draw, you would essentially be double dipping. In that scenario you'd get the chance to draw a General/Combo tag in the 0 point pool - where the odds could be comparable / better than having 1 point - without paying the $50 preference point fee. If they then allowed you to buy a preference point later (if unsuccessful in the initial draw) you'd get the added benefit of carrying that point into next year's draw. By not allowing you to do this, they are basically forcing you to pick your poison and in a way restricting preference point creep.
So if you are going into the 2020 draw with 0 preference points, understand that buying an optional $50 point may not have a significant impact on your chance to draw in 2020. But it should make a real difference in 2021 if you're unsuccessful this application season.
Lastly, be aware that you can only buy preference points without actually applying for a General/Combo license for 2 consecutive years. If you do not actually apply for a license for 3 consecutive years (ie you are acquiring points during the points only period) you will lose ALL of your preference points. In addition, you will also lose your preference points if successfully drawn for a General/Combo license even if you request a refund for that license at the time of your Permit application or at any other later date.
Any General/Combo licenses returned for refund are reissued after the initial drawing via the use of a nonresident alternate's list (more information here). In 2019 there was no alternate's list for Big Game/Elk Combo licenses. According to a source we spoke with at Montana FWP, there was an issue in the 2019 drawing and the decision was made to have the alternate list valid only for the Deer Combo licenses. In 2020 the standard alternate's list procedure for Big Game/Elk Combo licenses is anticipated to return.
The Montana application period for deer and elk typically begins around the 3rd week of February and ends on March 15. As always, best of luck in the draws!
|AZ ||~Jan. 10||Feb. 11, '20||Mid March|
|AZ ||Early May||Mid June||Mid July|
|CO||Mar. 1, '19||Apr. 2, '19||June 3|
|CO ||May 3|
|CO [3b]||Aug. 8, '19|
|ID ||Apr. 1||Apr. 30||Early June|
|ID ||May 1||June 5||Late June|
|MT ||Feb. 19, '19||Mar. 15, '19||~Apr. 24|
|MT ||End of Mar.||May 1, '19||~Jun. 11|
|MT ||End of Mar.||Jun. 1, '19||~Jul. 30|
|MT ||End of Mar.||Jun. 1, '19||~Jul. 16|
|NV||Mar. 18||Apr. 29, '19||May 24|
|NM||Mid Jan.||Mar. 18, '20||Apr. 29|
|OR||Early Feb.||May 15||Jun. 20|
|UT||Jan. 30, '20||Mar. 5, '20||May 29|
|WY ||Jan. 2, '20||Jan. 31, '20||May 21|
|WY ||Jan. 2, '20||Mar. 2, '20||May 7|
|WY ||Mar. 2, '20||Mar. 31, '20||May 7|
|WY ||Jan. 2, '20||Jun. 1, '20||June 18|